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Skokkend (Nie vir sensitiewe lesers nie!) | 26 Maart 2006

Vanmiddag stap ek heel rustig in die onderdorp rond toe ek begroet word deur aaklige foto’s van lyke. Eers dog ek dis lekker onsmaaklik vir ‘n Sondagmiddag, tot ek agterkom dat dit eintlik ‘n protes van Falun Gong of Falun Dafa is. My koreaanse vriendin wat kan Chinees lees verduidelik toe vir my dat daar ‘n konsentrasiekamp in China is waar meer as 6000 mense wat die geloof beoefen, aangehou word. Die ergste is nie net dat hulle geloof heeltemal onwettig is in China en hulle gemartel word as hulle in hegtenis geneem word nie, maar dat hulle organe geoes word terwyl van hierdie mense nog lewendig is. Die organe word dan op die swart mark verkoop en die liggame veras. Die foto’s wat op die straat uitgestal is, was van ‘n paar van hierdie gevalle. Dis TERRIBLE. Dit wys ‘n normale ID-tipe foto van die persoon en dan ‘n lyk met ‘n klomp staples oor die borskas en waar die niere en lewer was. Blykbaar is daar al meer as die helfte van die 6000 gevangenes dood op hierdie wyse sedert 2001.

The witness said that her ex-husband had a cell phone specifically for this type of business. No matter when and where, as soon as the cell phone rang, he would go to perform the operation. During the 2 years of working at Sujiatun, he did several cornea removal operations per day.

Her ex-husband told her that those detained in the Sujiatun concentration camp were all Falun Gong practitioners. For others, even prisoners sentenced to death, organ removals could not be done without proper paperwork and procedures. Only for Falun Gong practitioners, due to the central Communist Party policy that the deaths of practitioners are “counted as suicide,” the hospital can detain and remove organs from them live without any procedures. Every surgeon knew they were Falun Gong practitioners. They were told that doing such things to Falun Gong practitioners were not crimes. Instead, they were “cleaning” for the Chinese Communist Party. Those on the operation table were either mentally destroyed or had lost consciousness. Major targets of cornea removal were the elderly and children.

A reader from Mainland China called the Epoch Times New York office Saturday and told us that: a celebrity in China had a liver transplant. The liver belonged to a Falun Gong practitioner. This reader also revealed that the General Hospital of the Army and Police Force in Beijing still stores organs of Falun Gong practitioners for high-ranking officials and celebrities. He said that he obtained this information from a relative of this celebrity.

Lees die res van die artikel hier.


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  1. Daar is ‘n aantal eetstakende Falung Gong-lede reg langs die plek waar ek bly in Hong Kong, met foto’s van mense wat gemartel is in China. Ek het hierdie stories al voorheen gehoor, dis byna te erg om waar te wees.

    Kommentaar deur rondloper — 27 Maart 2006 @ 6:09 vm

  2. Ek kan dit nie glo nie. Ek dog ons lewe in die 21ste eeu.

    Kommentaar deur renklem — 27 Maart 2006 @ 7:11 nm

  3. Die Chinese is regtig crap. Verlede jaar is twee mense van Falun Gong hier in ‘n drive by shooting vermoor dieselfde tyd as wat die Chinese premier op besoek aan die land was. Ek is seker die Chinese het dit gedoen.

    Kommentaar deur Do Kwang — 28 Maart 2006 @ 7:47 vm

  4. Gaan kyk daai lekker movie V for Vendetta – ultranasionalisme gone wrong in Engeland, maar dit kan enige plek gebeur. Nog scary stuff, as mens byvoorbeeld dink aan die Chinese missiele gerig op Taiwan.

    Kommentaar deur rondloper — 31 Maart 2006 @ 10:58 vm

  5. China is not as bad as made out to be. I have been there, have you?

    Here is more news that has since aired on the authenticity of the allegation:

    http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,18669046%255E7583,00.html

    “Initial investigations by researchers for a US congressional committee have identified the site at Sujiatun as a hospital, where it is suspected organ harvesting occurs but on nowhere near the scale claimed”

    Now, if there is no concentration camp, rather isolated instances of abuse and irregularity contrary to Chinese law, then there exists a very different reality than what’s alleged.

    The congressional committee on International relations, Asia Pacific subcommittee has been contacted. However they seem to be unwilling to help. It may be our government’s wish to remain ambiguous on this issue.

    My opinion is if this allegation is false, we need to make that clear, so we in the West can not be accused of allowing our ambiguity to be exploited for some nefarious, well-timed, political indictment.

    Looks like efforts may be needed to make FOIA request to congressional committee. Private citizens without substantial resource and time will likely meet a lost cause.

    There are also many questionable issues surround this allegation:

    – Many details about the alleged camp site appears to be lifted from the hospital website’s About page, including the alleged number of victims, 6000, which is part of the admission statistics published by the hospital in 2005 (2nd paragraph of About page).

    http://world.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_load?lp=zt_en&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thrombusres-cn.net%2Fmyjs%2Fmyjs.htm

    – Hong Kong newspaper TaKungPao investigated the allegations and came up empty:
    1) Reporters visited the hospital; the only underground structure found is the septic tank:

    http://world.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=zt_en&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.takungpao.com%2Fnews%2F06%2F03%2F31%2FZM-545907.htm

    2) Reporters contacted Lanzhou University, but alleged arrested students’ names do not exists in student registry:

    http://world.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=zt_en&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.takungpao.com%2Fnews%2F06%2F03%2F27%2FZM-543827.htm

    – It appears the surprise discovery of an underground tunnel built by japanese army during 1905-1920 period, back in August 2005 could be the inspiration for this twist of fact.
    The tunnel was sealed up by the Japanese then and unknown until it was discovered by a photographer from the 918 WWII museum working in Sujiatun.

    http://news.sohu.com/20050812/n226651351.shtml

    When it was discovered in 2005 the tunnel was half *under water*, above link has a picture of it so everyone can get a good idea how this tunnel can, before its discovery in 2001, hold 6000 people, plus an army of skilled transplant surgeons, nurses, 500-700 jail guards – equipment, rations, and supplies for nearly 10,000 people – all of them eating drinking defecating on top of each other.

    And the amazing thing is Sujiatun is a populated close suburb of Shenyang city, with over 150 foreign company and 50-60 foreign family too – “nobody goes in and out of the concentration camp”?

    More info about the tunnel, including dimension of the facility:

    http://www.u-web.cn/PersonalPCSite/complex562_detail.jsp?itemid=175862&contenttype=TextImage&isindex=0&indexchannelid=-1

    “after jumping down and passing two holes, we arrive at the entrance of the underground facility. The hallway is 2 meters long and only wide enough for one person. After the hallway is a wider 8 square meter area. After 5 meters we arrrive at 3 meter wide, 2 meter tall underground structure. Cement covers the walls, it’s flooded with water 1 meter deep. the structure is about 4 meter under ground, with some of the walls crumbling.

    According to Wang TsenJie who discovered it, from above ground estimation it is 2000 meter long [with widest point @ 3 meter], half completely flooded. Water is clear with fish that have no eyes. Some ammunition and human remains have been found [human remain from WWII.]”

    (get help from http://world.altavista.com if you can’t read Chinese. It ain’t a billion people’s fault.)
    (Just for comparison Guantanamo Bay is a huge base, and it only holds 700 detainees.)

    Kommentaar deur bobby fletcher — 5 April 2006 @ 11:39 nm

  6. Thanks for the info. I’m definitely going to have a look at those links. I always like to be well informed. I deleted one comment because it was posted twice.

    Kommentaar deur psigioot — 6 April 2006 @ 2:54 nm

  7. Thank you, sorry about the butterfinger.

    While I agree China’s human rights abuse should be examined, as with all human rights abusers in the world including my own country USA – but lifting data from websites and writing allegory of “Schindler’s List” is not the way.

    If we in the West can not be precise with our facts, only resort to nefarious indictment, who will take what we say seriousely?

    Kommentaar deur bobby fletcher — 8 April 2006 @ 11:34 nm

  8. Do you understand Afrikaans? Then you would also understand that I only showed that part of an article to get the story behind the pictures I saw on the street that day. I used the word “blykbaar” that means “apparently”, so nowhere did I claim this was my own finding, nor that I truly believed everything. I was just shocked, that’s all.

    Kommentaar deur psigioot — 9 April 2006 @ 12:57 nm

  9. Again, I’m sorry about this. I am an America, and I don’t know Afrikanns. And I know how us Americans can be ignorant and imposing (which explains why this story has taken off in North America.)

    Yes, I only saw your report of Epoch Times story, and felt it necessary to provide my own research.

    Thanks for letting me post on your blog anyways.

    I have evidence that suggests Falun Gong activists in America strung togheter unrelated news and facts from China to make this story. I will only impose my theory on you if you demand it.

    Kommentaar deur bobby fletcher — 9 April 2006 @ 7:21 nm

  10. psigioot, I hope you know organs can not be stored for transplantion later; once removed it’s only good for a some hours.

    Kommentaar deur bobby fletcher — 9 April 2006 @ 7:25 nm

  11. sunday service klink vir my na ‘n chinese agent wie se werk dit is om blogs te patrolleer. Hy/sy probeer darem net te hard om waar te wees.

    Kommentaar deur Pienk Zuit — 13 April 2006 @ 8:35 vm

  12. ek het ophou kommentaar lewer op sy tirade want die ou/vrou het my baie begin irriteer. veral omdat sy grammar soos een van my studente s’n lyk.

    Kommentaar deur psigioot — 13 April 2006 @ 11:50 vm

  13. US investigators find no evidence of Sujiatun concentration camp:

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060415/pl_afp/uschinasectpolitics_060415004729

    “Officers and staff from our embassy in Beijing and consulate in Shenyang have visited the area and the specific site mentioned in these reports on two separate occasions,” McCormack said.

    “In these visits the officers were allowed to tour the entire facility and grounds and found no evidence that the site is being used for any function other than as a normal public hospital.”

    This finding was reported by The Australian weeks prior:

    http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,18669046-7583,00.html

    “It appears the claims by Falun Gong have been at least substantially exaggerated. Initial investigations by researchers for a US congressional committee have identified the site at Sujiatun as a hospital, where it is suspected organ harvesting occurs but on nowhere near the scale claimed”

    Kommentaar deur bobby fletcher — 17 April 2006 @ 11:09 nm


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